blue states, but the united states. he presented himself as the personification of that notion. his presidency has been a rude awakening in terms of how far you can take that. so he has been dealing with that. the promise and frustrations of that idea ever sense. as i'm sure we'll both be experiencing the telephone calls, for the show. >> host: your book ends in 1989, "barack obama: the story." he said there's another volume coming? >> guest: added y2k committed to 40 years of robert caro, so assertive cat that on the down low, but i had every intention and i've done a lot of reporting that the later years, which influences the book even though they're not in it. and i don't want to do a quickie. i tried a rate for history documents coming out later and i want to be patient. >> host: to go against 1989, but at this point, barack obama so far 1961, born in honolulu 61 to 62 that in seattle. 62 to 67 back to honolulu into jakarta. in tunisia. back to honolulu, 71 to 79. los angeles, said in a to 81 while he attended occid